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Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Independence day is still 31st August - 2nd September

Perhaps you have been blinded by the fact the country is of one, and perhaps you've been blinded all by the fact you NEVER want to accept any other people's opinion and only want to be a hypocrite by labeling other people various insultations and stereotyping, thinking that your opinion has always been the best idea...Perhaps you're blinded by the fact that people linking to your site, makes you the actual one who is totally void of a proper discussion among friends and not some unfinished harsh criticism which you always have done all your life so far and that makes you think: I'm the only one who is right here, everyone else who don't listen is another non-Malaysian. My advice to you:- Do not pass your own judgment on to other people. Perhaps you should learn to argue in a more progressive and acceptable manner:- Refer Here or Here and not be bound emotionally.

Anyways, to talk about your inability to discuss, your ignorance and your snobbishness and would require pages and pages to write about which I would not like to delve further, it wouldn't do any good. It was in fact, more of discussion, but if you generally want to have too much emphasis on the accuracy of names, I would then try to follow suit. And I would generally like to stress that, no matter your point on my legibility on me being a Malaysia citizen, this is my point of view which you do not have to agree. Questioning my status as Malaysian through my knowledge of history is just naive and just a plain way of emphasizing that you're not educating or teaching or even discussing, but more like preaching that you're right and you think that I'm an outisder and not fit of any proper way of properly saying anything. People who you think are not in the know should not be crticized, but should be explained to understand. Therefore, back to the main topic:-

For all this while, you're talking about having independence together with Sabah and Sarawak which is on 16th September. You claim anything you want, and yes, the books might be wrong and you yourself might be wrong. The interpretation of history is sometimes based on individual context. Living in Sabah and Sarawak may have provided a different sentiment of this interpretation. Independence in the British colonies and the United States have all the states together as one before their respective declaration while Malaysia or Malaya gained independence before the actual country was formed, thus the circumstances. Take for example, the Hawaii state which joined the United States on 21st August 1959, also celebrate it's independence on the 4th July like every other US states. Why then did Hawaii not celebrate its independence on 21st August? In other words, we're sharing the actual independence decided / provided earlier by the British colonies.

The fact is that, the original plan was to declare the states: States of Malaya, North Borneo (Sabah), Sarawak and Singapore as Malaysia on 31st August 1963 but due to the claims and confrontation made by the Indonesian and Philippines government, it was delayed until after the Cobbold Comission findings which was then until 16th September, Malaysia was officially declared. These dates has been determined by the government then, in which, could also be in fact earlier but due to administrative issues, only declared officially to be 16th Spetember. Which means that if not for the confrontatinal issues by the countries, we would have Sabah and Sarawak also on the 31st August, in other words, same independence day. Malaya got its independence on the 31st August 1957, yes I agree at that time, Sabah and Sarawak were still under the Union jack flag but the Cobbold Commission was to investigate whether Sabah and Sarawak would like to join Malaysia (A name change from Malaya), which again is similar to the case of Hawaii. The formation of a country does not indicate independence.

In fact, if it would suit you, 31st August should be declared as Hari Kemerdekaan Malaya and 16st September as Hari Kemerdekaan Sabah Sarawak? Maybe the British Empire should declare the independence of Sabah Sarawak seperately considering that it never actually gave independence to Sabah and Sarawak? Where's the point in that? It sure looks like two separate countries. Furthermore, dates are facts of history where we know when something of high historical value happens, but does it matter? The value of independence have long been forgotten and the independence day celebrations is more like a routine or a public holiday, don't say the independence date, even the very essence of what makes us Malaysian was not given emphasis to. In fact, having it on 30th September as the official date would not make any difference as there is still a lot to argue about. Living in Malaysia, I guess it's a matter of preference, if you are so desperate to make 16th September as the Independence Day just celebrate Independence Day according to Sabah and Sarawak. I would not say that Sabah Sarawak made the country, but both sides made the country.

Would like to highlight your posting on "Sejarah Pembentukan Malaysia":-

i> Part 1 - I've no qualms about this. Fair enough.
ii> Part 2 - I find it disturbing that you fancy to put emphasis to the claims that Malaya begs Sabah and Sarawak to join Malaysia. What was the Cobbold Comission for then? Isn't it agreed that if the findings from the Cobbold Comission that if the majority votes out, both states shall not be included? I would also like to point out your very words that Sabah Sarawak chose to join, there was no begging involved. Again, a mark of total undermining and discrimination towards the people of the Peninsular. Yet, I also do understand why did you choose to state that Sabah Sarawak shaped Malaysia while it seems that Malaya did not contribute anything. Sabah Sarawak did not shape Malaysia nor did the Peninsular was the one who is joining the Federation. It is the collaboration of these governments that formed Malaysia, which has nothing to do with the independence, mind you.

Writing this sure took up some of my time. I don't expect you (name removed) to follow what I'm saying as you would never listen to what I've to say as you've always and often undermined my credibility by exercising your hypocritsm over everyone else which you think will not resist back in which you often criticize as not-in the know. Human see things objectively, but it is up to our attitude to properly get the idea to convince other people. I never ever saw that in any of your arguments, you've often forced it. Even you do not mean to, but the impression lasts a lifetime and I would not forget the way that you often use anything possible (even undermining my eligibility as a Malaysian citizen) to get people to agree with you. Well, do expect the same from me from this point onwards.

And, your posting on Sejarah Pembentuakn Malaysia is more like "Status rakyat di Sabah dan Sarawak" or such title. There were more criticism on Peninsular and on the (M) than the actual forming of Malaysia.

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